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想当然
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From: 广州
Registered: April 27, 2002
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SAILOR:
正东方向的阳台只能收EchoStar3。E*3位於正南偏东25度。
用电脑看的话,需要1020A接受卡+锅+LNB+电缆.

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btang
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Registered: January 25, 2001
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I read 28 pages now , I got the idea now .
buy a dish +LNB+receive , ( not the computer card ) from the mfmays's website , then set it up and adjust the dish ...
So this receiver can receive T5/G3/cctv4/FAIR...

what about HBO and other U.S. program ?

I don't want to use computer to watch TV .
yunboo
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Registered: July 28, 2002
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to btang & ALL
good boy! you have a good start and holp you to keep your doing. did you find my sug. (just buy a receiver (not a card in computer)and 2 dish, one for FTA, one for Di** or B$v, all can be from ebay, price is good)
一点想法:
1. 这是一个在我看来最好最实用的贴子,再次感谢WFMAYS和各位同好! 但是他是从2003年开始的, WFMAYS楼主的器材网站似乎早已人去楼空,想去他那里买器材是不现实的.
2. 因为此贴时间太长,靠前的一些连接已经失效.但是大家的讨论内容是不会失效的, 很有必要从头到尾研读一遍到数遍.我是将贴子全部考下,放到SANDISK里. 走到那里读到那里, 从知道NOTHING到知道MOST OF IT, 绝大部分是靠此贴的引领.Smile
3. 此贴大部分讨论的是如何用卡,因为以前用RECEIVER的太少, 而且大部分人认为RECEIVER有依赖性, 要靠提供商定时UPDATE 才可以看到节目. 但卡的局限性太大, 没有RECEIVER那么灵活,所以我一直寻求用FTA RECEIVER的方法. 一个鼓舞人心的消息是, 现在可以用FTA RECEIVER 来看D*SH OR B&V 了!但是前提是你要有基本功课, 所以你还是要研读本贴全部内容.
4. FTA RECEIVER, 是收看/听FREE-TO-AIR的卫星节目的. 但是你可以通过FLASH来UPGRADE 原来的BOOT 文件,以便把原来的FTA RECEIVER 升级到MODED RECEIVER, 再输入KEY, 就能看到所有的DH!S 或 B&VU. 注意: DTV 和STAR CHOICE 目前还没什么办法收看, 如果你想看DTV 或SC, 那你可以就此打住, 以免浪费时间.
5.目前市面上常见的RECEIVER(由便宜200CAD到贵450CAD):Pansat 2500, Fortec Lifetime receiver, Fortec ULTRA reciver, Siver/Blackbird receiver.
都可以从EBAY上买到. 也可以到本地的店铺打听得到.
6.有关DISH和LNB/LNBF 前面都很详细, 就不多说了.
7.cable 必须是R6, 到HOMEDEPOT 或CT 买CABLE 和头.
8.最好买个找星器, 20CAD左右. 非常有用.
9. 一些用的到的连接:
http://www.al7bar.tk/forums/

http://www.dishchannelchart.com./

http://chinasmile.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100092507&f=532097127&m=894108876

HAVE FUN!



quote:
Originally posted by btang:
I read 28 pages now , I got the idea now .
buy a dish +LNB+receive , ( not the computer card ) from the mfmays's website , then set it up and adjust the dish ...
So this receiver can receive T5/G3/cctv4/FAIR...

what about HBO and other U.S. program ?

I don't want to use computer to watch TV .

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btang
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Registered: January 25, 2001
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cool !
I read this tread until 1:30am last night and now , 3:51PM , I read all 53 pages .
I found yunboo was not active until recently .
I think Yunboo' idea is the best .

Pansat 2500, Fortec Lifetime receiver, Fortec ULTRA reciver, Siver/Blackbird receiver , 这些接收机都可以通过FLASH来UPGRADE 原来的BOOT 文件吗?
把原来的FTA RECEIVER 升级到MODED RECEIVER后,这个接收机还可以收FTA节目吗?(应该可以)
upgrade flash ,你得要有个计算机卡+软件吧?

DISH 当然是一样的,越大越好.
FTA 的dish用什么lnb?
D!s$...K and B..V 用什么lnb ?
LNB and dish 还得配套吧?
用一个switch切换信号,在送到接收机,对吗?

另外一个故事,同事说,定一个合法B2..VU的系统(现有促销,两台接收机),然后自己写卡。他说可以帮我写。但这样还是免不了每月的basic fee (>$30) .
以上只是一个故事,有心人不要多想,哈哈...
sailor8888
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Registered: October 20, 2003
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想当然:
谢谢,看来只能收E*3了。

yunboo:
谢谢你的总结和连接。请问多伦多哪有卫星器材店?
eglington
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From: Toronto
Registered: February 20, 2001
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我觉得照目前TEST卫星接收的发展趋势,B和D很快要考虑彻底改进加密方式了(就像Direct前不久那样)。到时候,很多器材的投资就打水漂了。大家要有思想准备。
我认识的一个人3-4年里,花了1500-2000买各种设备和服务,到现在也没能踏实看上,还不如看正版的呢
eglington
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再给大家提个醒,就是尽量低调,锅也要越隐蔽越好,毕竟不是光明正大。再有,就是万一被抓,可不要把华枫给供出来呦, 和赫赫
cattomato
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哎 顶顶吧 不然 生活坛子就变成同乡会了!还是实实在在的东西好!!
btang
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Registered: January 25, 2001
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yunboo , where are you ?
answer my questions , pleeeease !!!

Egg, the famouse Egg , roaming everywhere .
yunboo
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From: GTA
Registered: July 28, 2002
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to btang:
这些接收机都可以通过FLASH来UPGRADE 原来的BOOT 文件吗? yes!
把原来的FTA RECEIVER 升级到MODED RECEIVER后,这个接收机还可以收FTA节目吗?yes!
upgrade flash ,你得要有个计算机卡+软件吧?
a 9 pin cable(not for null modem) + software (you can download)+key (you will find it). that's it!
DISH 当然是一样的,越大越好. not really. watch your wallet.
FTA 的dish -> shall be bigger. >500mm.
D!s$...K and B..V -> 18" dish is good enough.
FTA 的dish用什么lnb? universal LNB
D!s$...K and B..V 用什么lnb ? Standard 11250 LNB(R & L)

LNB and dish 还得配套吧?whatsoever.

用一个switch切换信号,在送到接收机,对吗?
22k switch is not a good idea! use 4in 1 DiSEqC switch.

另外一个故事,同事说,定一个合法B2..VU的系统(现有促销,两台接收机),然后自己写卡。他说可以帮我写。但这样还是免不了每月的basic fee (>$30) .
以上只是一个故事,有心人不要多想,哈哈...you will pay not only the basic fee, but also 人情。I can't understand why you are feeling so happy.

btw, what eglington said is ture, just think about it, my friend, nothing is for free. and when you flash your receiver, make sure you are ready for it, everything need to be clear, otherwise, your receiver will be dead instead.

to sailor8888
you will figure out AFTER you finish reading this tread.

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btang
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Registered: January 25, 2001
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Yunboo , thank you !
I saw your post in www.al7bar.tk/forums/ .
I am biding on a sat. finder and campass ,
the next is :
fortec ultra
disk 500 + dual-lnb
4in 1 DiSEqC

do you by the way have the pin-out of the serial cable ?

Thanks !
yunboo
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Registered: July 28, 2002
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TO BT:
MY THOUGHT: THE BEST ONE IS Siver/Blackbird receiver BUT EXPENSIVE.
SECOND ONE IS Pansat 2500, CHEAPER AND WORK WELL.
LAST ONE IS Fortec ULTRA reciver (GOOD FOR D**N)+ Pansat 2500 REMOTE (FOR B&V).
I have a 9 pin cable for null modem. I HAVE TO CUT IT & RECONNECTED IN THE RIGHT WAY. WORK WELL.

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btang
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to: yunboo:
look at al7bar , most of the people are talking about fortec and its flexbility / programable ...
yunboo
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From: GTA
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to btang:
这就是乐趣之所在。感觉上fortec比其他款的机器难改,而且小问题不断, 这是吸引TESTER 的地方吧.
to egg:
想起来忘了说,往最坏了想,D和B都没了,不过是还FTA的本来面目,还照样能看CCTV和台湾神侃。即使现在有D B ,我也看CCTV和台湾神侃。没多少损失。

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SPARK
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From: 塞外
Registered: March 19, 2002
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请教yunboo,
我有一个FTA的接收机,不带ic卡插口的,但是有串口,是韩国产的,是否也可以升级到moded receiver?
移民中国
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想买一个76CM或90CM的锅, 不知哪里有卖, 能否告知.
email: goldbeeca@yahoo.com

谢了

还有: Yunboo, 那串口线是怎么个连法, 2, 3 7, 吗?
能否email一下?

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btang
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the cable should straight rs232 cable .
yunboo
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串口线连法:
receiver to receiver: 2-3, 3-2, 5-5. F-to-F rs232 null modem cable.
receiver to computer: 2-2, 3-3. 5-5. F-to-F straight rs232 cable.

一米多高?
yunboo
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要看它是否有串口线端口;芯片型号等详情才知道是否可以.

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请教yunboo,
我有一个FTA的接收机,不带ic卡插口的,但是有串口,是韩国产的,是否也可以升级到moded receiver?


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btang
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Registered: January 25, 2001
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有没有人想一起买FORTEC ULTRA?
torono报价350。(cash无税)

EBAY上总是拍到310以上,再付运费。
 
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