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默认 以两大板猪为代表的牛牛们,你们到底从还是不从?

我看还是从了吧?这死皮111咋就这么难呢?如果周一再转头向下,我看就真的从了算了啊?
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默认 牛牛们真拿天然气说事呢?

这次GAS的多头真的是很strong,我这个空头还是暂时回避一下好呀!
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这次GAS的多头真的是很strong,我这个空头还是暂时回避一下好呀!
momentum永远是股市的动力,昨天我就说了,(三狗大事说,成熟的股深都是事后说,我不是股深,所以喜欢事先说)这次天然气是真突破,CHK是多么强的momentum!

momentum来的时候,高潮一定会来
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我看还是从了吧?这死皮111咋就这么难呢?如果周一再转头向下,我看就真的从了算了啊?
现在是区间内震动,时间越长,突破的越暴力

整理其间不断高抛低吸,不挺美好么?为什么要从捏?


整理完后,我押大,当然MM可能押小,不过不要紧.经过整理之后,成本应该已经很低了,比如我目前的成本现在就在SPY1000点以下.

一天想到归去但已晚
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默认 唉,野猪,GAS与石油按热值是怎么换算关系呀?

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表格中的当量换算基本上基于如下标准:
1.天然气:1000英热单位/立方英尺=9500大卡/立方米。(Groningen气为8400大卡/立方米)
2.液化石油气:假定其按50/50的丙烷与丁烷的混合比例。其中r与p分别代表冷冻与压缩状态下的液化石油气。
3.热值,百万英热单位(总量)
每吨—液化天然气51.8;液化石油气47.3;油42.3;煤27.3
每桶—液化天然气3.8;液化石油气(冷冻)4.45;液化石油气(压缩)4.1;油5.8
每立方米—液化天然气23.8;液化石油气(冷冻)28;液化石油气(压缩)25.8

符号和缩写
以下的符号和单位不一定与国际气联推荐使的国际计量系统一致,然而,因为使用方便,它们仍被天然气工业系统所广泛采用。
BTU - 英制热量单位
MMBTU - 百万英制热量单位
ft3 – 立方英尺
scf – 标准立方英尺

Mcf – 千立方英尺
MMcf – 百万立方英尺
Tcf – 万亿立方英尺
Nm3 – 常态立方米
mrd m3 – 109立方米

天然气的术语和成分
注:本表采用的天然气为: 1000 英热单位/ 立方英尺 = 9500大卡/立方米

Groningen 天然气的热值为: 8400大卡/立方米

LPG: 指 50/50 的 丙烷/丁烷 含量


LNG 液化天然气
LPG 液化石油气
NGL 天然气凝析液
SNG 合成(代替品)天然气

表1:天然气:国际燃料价格当量(美元)

一美分/百万
英制热量单位 = 原油 5.8 美分/桶
燃料油 6.4
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默认 太多东东了

你是专业的,能否直接给一个一桶油等于多少BTU天然气呀?
我到是想看看这帮人是忽悠还是怎么的?
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你是专业的,能否直接给一个一桶油等于多少BTU天然气呀?
我到是想看看这帮人是忽悠还是怎么的?
MMBTU是热量单位.按照换算,一桶油应该是6MMBTU.

按照热量计算,现在同等热量值的石油是天然气价格的3倍左右.
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默认 如果真是GAS套用OIL的价格来订价的话

那GAS是不是得涨到天上去呀?
GAS的future单价好象就是一个MMBTU,如果按油价1/6,GAS就得xx了啊.
这么算也不是没有一定道理呀?都是能源嘛!
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那GAS是不是得涨到天上去呀?
GAS的future单价好象就是一个MMBTU,如果按油价1/6,GAS就得xx了啊.
这么算也不是没有一定道理呀?都是能源嘛!
不能这么算.同等热量单位的不同能源是存在差价的.因为各种能源都有储量的多寡,开采的难易,使用方便程度.应用价值高低不同.

所以同热量单位,应该是煤最便宜,天然气次之,油最贵
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默认 这个我当然承认

但是,华尔街拿这说事?或者说GAS厂方拿这说事,怎么说有一定道理.
退一步说,gas开采容易,成本低,那它也是清洁能源啦...所以..吵一下是可能的.我只是想知道,它们是短期炒一下,还是稍长时间炒一下而已!

谢谢啦..
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不能这么算.同等热量单位的不同能源是存在差价的.因为各种能源都有储量的多寡,开采的难易,使用方便程度.应用价值高低不同.

所以同热量单位,应该是煤最便宜,天然气次之,油最贵
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但是,华尔街拿这说事?或者说GAS厂方拿这说事,怎么说有一定道理.
退一步说,gas开采容易,成本低,那它也是清洁能源啦...所以..吵一下是可能的.我只是想知道,它们是短期炒一下,还是稍长时间炒一下而已!

谢谢啦..
石油的高价值在于应用的广泛性,比如只有石油可以被用于交通运输行业

另:华尔街基本上是个被交易主导的地方,搞价值投资不太合适
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默认 正因为它以交易为主

所以就得忽悠!有时候时间长,有时候时间短.
没有忽悠的交易只能是很短的几下子.
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默认 5.65抄了点

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旧 Jun 4th, 2010, 13:36   只看该作者   #16
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有没有发现和期货走势有点背离?期货在跌。。。。
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默认 HND破了5.58还是砍字一下.

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旧 Jun 4th, 2010, 13:42   只看该作者   #18
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默认 算了.5.7扔了

这次多头真的不是一般的猛.
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默认 你老想交流的话,网下吧?

刚才看了一下期货的图才决定扔的,照目前看是扔对了!
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默认 奶奶的,这回gas的多头真猛

要不是扔得快,又得砍了!
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