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旧 Feb 19th, 2006, 21:44     #1
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Question 软件测试的工作好找吗?

各位大侠,什么样的IT工作好找啊?

以前在国内做过项目监控和质量审核工作,也做过需求分析和项目测试。现在一头雾水,不知道什么样的工作好找一些?

有正在做测试的朋友,或者对公司里测试工作比较熟悉的朋友吗?

我想做软件测试方面的工作,不知道从哪里开始着手去找,技术上要求怎样?谢谢大家!
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旧 Feb 20th, 2006, 17:56   只看该作者   #2
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Unhappy 今天去了3750,co-op需要5个月,8月份以后那还能找到工作吗?

今天去了3750,co-op需要5个月,8月份以后那还能找到工作吗?

IT大侠你们都在哪里啊,帮帮忙,指个道吧!

自己up一下!:)
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旧 Feb 20th, 2006, 23:12   只看该作者   #3
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本人外行,鼓励你一下!!!

如果有co-op,尽管去吧,问题是你能不能排上。

“8月份以后那还能找到工作吗?”--这就看你的了,没有规定说过了8月份不许招人吧?
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 10:18   只看该作者   #4
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本人外行,鼓励你一下!!!

如果有co-op,尽管去吧,问题是你能不能排上。

“8月份以后那还能找到工作吗?”--这就看你的了,没有规定说过了8月份不许招人吧?
谢谢你的鼓励!

我已经先排上3月20日的了,只是有些犹豫,因听一些朋友说上半年好找工作,所以很怕8月份结束后再找工作很难。

其实你说的对,什么时候都有招人的,我要加倍努力,看看什么时候好运气也能光顾我一下!

再次感谢!
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 10:54   只看该作者   #5
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to look for an IT job. What matters most is overall market, yes, MARKET, MARKET, MARKET. There are lots of testing jobs out there. But when it comes to job hunting, it varies case by case.

Wish you best luck.
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 20:43   只看该作者   #6
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默认 我是STEVEN

你好,我看到了你的贴子。本人目前在一家中小型的软件公司里,做QA。根据你的情况,我觉得QA方向很适合你。至于找工方式,QA和其他工作一样,也需要你全力的投入去找。翻翻TRACY以前的POST,那上面讲了很详细了。COOP是个好方法,我认识一个俄国人就是靠这个找到了QA的工作。有什N具体问题,尽管提出来,我尽所能回答你。
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旧 Feb 21st, 2006, 22:26   只看该作者   #7
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默认 上次一个rolia上的人问了我一些QA的找工问题,share给你吧

问: 你好!谢谢你给我提供了那么多关于QA的网址给我,我会去认真看的。在我提问的那个贴子里,有好多的好心朋友给了我不同的建议。说句老实话,我还真分辩不清哪个是正确的,哪个是有偏见的。从你的字里行间能感觉出来,你一定是个QA,对吗?这种工作真的是‘NETWORKING比技术重要,技术含量低’?我还看到有网友说:他们公司缺个QA,可招了好久也没招到合适的,面试了几个都不行,至今位置还空着;这些话,在你看来如何理解呢?是QA理论不足,还是会的计算机语言少,还是没有他们需要的开发经验,还是什么?我都不如何下手分析了,现在自己真的是‘茫茫然’
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networking只不过是一种找工作的有效方法,和QA无关,apply to所有工作。QA也分几个层次的,这里的QA还有行业之分。有些qa工作需要有行业背景,才能够竞争得过别人,我以前的背景都是软件开发公司的,所以软件公司的QA职位对我来说比较容易拿下。但是也看具体的职位描述,每个职位的要求不同。这里其实有很多财务集团,财务软件公司,都需要有财务开发方面的背景的。有些公司的软件不是很难测,所以要求也比较低,对于没有QA经验的人来说比较容易进。有些公司的qa职位要求比较高,工资也高,有些公司qa的要求低,工资也低。我有很多年的QA经验,但是我有个rolia的朋友在bmo做,帮我递交了resume,但是我连个面世也没有,因为我没有mainframe经验。但是这并不是说明我没有其他机会。所以,你要多发resume,看job description多改resume,当然牛不能吹得过火。然后看市场的反应,看你应该朝哪个方向多努力。

去rolia.net上查一查qa tester上面也有不少讨论,希望你有用。我以前在这里也post了不少link,你自己往前面查。

http://fh.rolia.net/f0/c1050/all/page/218.html
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旧 Feb 23rd, 2006, 22:15   只看该作者   #8
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Unhappy 技术上需要准备哪些?

谢谢Harlem,Steven,Tracyd的回复和鼓励!我这就找找以往Tracyd的帖子和rolia上大家的讨论。

另外问个问题,我以往的测试经验多是对应用系统如OA、E-government和财务管理等软件的功能测试。另外比较熟悉windows操作系统管理,和SQL Server数据库(MCSE、MCDBA证书)。编程上简单用过PB、VB和C,不过很长时间没用了。有些担心自己的技术,请各位指点一下,如果想找QA的工作,技术上我现在该准备点什么,或者再学习点什么吗?

再次感谢!
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旧 Feb 23rd, 2006, 22:41   只看该作者   #9
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这里招QA的软件公司越来越多, 而且本科生又没有什么相关的课程, 感觉竞争要小一些. 如果你有相关的工作经验,还是很不错的选择. 不过每个公司的QA担任的角色都有很大不同. 大多数会侧重于测试, 建议你多了解一些这边常用的软件. 如, Rational, Mercury, Empirix 的产品. 还有一些做Unit Test的 JUnit, NUnit. 再把测试的基本原理学一学.
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旧 Feb 24th, 2006, 22:11   只看该作者   #10
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英文最重要,不是你托弗考了600分,那个没用。口语交流!
熟悉标准的QA工作流程,结合自己以前的工作经验来回答面世。包括build的流程,bug的流程,和软件开发的整个流程,QA应当担任的职责。如何和其他部门的人员合作交流也是很重要的。SQL和oracle在这里还是比较流行的。有些需要unix平台的背景,有些不需要。对国内政府部门和财务的软件funtion的了解,在这里没用。我没做过财务软件的测试,但是我知道这里银行和财务系统和国内有很大的不同。具体如何的如何不同,你就只能去问懂财务和accounting的前辈吧。e-business和e-commernce有一定的市场。当然你在国内有相关的经验,比一点都没有的一定强。毕竟每个公司的软件function都不一样。反正你就去多试,往自己强项上去努力。
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旧 Feb 24th, 2006, 23:11   只看该作者   #11
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默认 好久没机会刷网了,今天帮助同行说两句.

我觉得近来QA的工作机会还是有的,运气是要有的.这运气我也不多说了,因为必定每个人真是不一样.就说说其他还可以补救的吧我赞成Tracy的观点,交流很重要.不过这方面既要自己平时努力但实话说不是短时间能提高的.所以做什么都要"扬长避短",说不过人家就用其他方式,比如可以用文字,图片等什么的.真要是说起来,那就自己什么方面最熟就说什么.当然这里基本的技术内容也要比较扎实.

其他的可能就是在实际的找工,准备简历,应付面试等话题了. 这以后慢慢说也成.

请见谅我这只是想起来的就写了,因为怕一些同志对我没及时回消息有意见,所以就想到什么写什么了.欢迎大家再讨论.
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旧 Feb 28th, 2006, 23:34   只看该作者   #12
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默认 做SQA用不用考个什么证啊?

谢谢楼上几位的支持和答复,我这几天正在看tracyd以前帖子中提到的一些关于专业知识的网站。感觉大家说的对,能用英语描述自己的专业技能和过程确实不是一件容易的事,那些单词好长啊!呵呵!

周末看见新概念好像推出一个test co-op培训班,有朋友参加过吗?值不值得上这样的培训班,而且做SQA是否需要在这边考个什么证啊,还是去哪个college读个什么专业?

谢谢大家能给指点一下。
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旧 Mar 1st, 2006, 08:59   只看该作者   #13
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默认 Microsoft 在大量招QA, 我收到这封e-mail.

Hi XX,

I recruit Software Development Engineers (SDE) and Software Development Engineers in Test (SDET) at Microsoft for the MED (Mobile and Embedded Devices) group and recently reviewed your resume. I noticed that you share some essential skill sets and experiences with many members of our team, and I’m writing to gauge your interest in new opportunities with Microsoft.


If you’d like to pursue a position within our team, please take a few minutes to fill out the attached eScreen and return it along with a fresh copy of your resume.

I’m working with Dean Da Costa and Joe Jenkins, seasoned Staffing Consultant here at MED/CS. I’ll forward your eScreen and resume to Dean or Joe and several hiring managers that have shown an interest in your skill-set. You can expect a follow-up call (from a hiring manager or Staffing Consultant) within ten days of our receipt of your eScreen. We’re looking forward to your response.


Note: These are fulltime (FTE) positions with Microsoft C not contracts. All of my current positions are located in Redmond, WA (Seattle area) - we do offer an excellent relo package.


Thank you for your time!


Scott

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默认 下面是要填的表. 我对微软的东西没兴趣, 有兴趣的可以试试.

Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. I look forward to talking with you in more detail about career opportunities with Microsoft. Please answer only those areas that apply!

(Please bold your answers)

Administrative Questions

Name:

Date completed:

What is the best method and time to contact you?

Are you open to relocation to the Seattle area? If you accepted an offer from Microsoft, how long would you anticipate it would take to make the move to the Seattle area?

Are you a US citizen or national; permanent resident; applicant for legalization or amnesty, asylee (a person granted asylum); or refugee? If no, are you currently on a Visa C type/time?

Have you previously worked for Microsoft? If so, please list your most recent managers?

Have you ever spoken with a Microsoft recruiter? If yes, who and when?

Have you interviewed for positions with Microsoft? If so, when and what where the results?

What is your current or Expected Base Salary?

Have you signed a non-compete or non-disclosure agreement which may prevent you from taking a position or pursuing opportunities at Microsoft?

Do you know anyone at Microsoft? If yes, who?


Current Interests

Why are you considering new career opportunities at this time? Do you have any offers outstanding?


As you look ahead to potential career opportunities, what are the “must have” criteria that you will be using to determine which opportunity is the right one for you?
1.
2.
3.

How can Microsoft best utilize your skills? What product/technology/application are you most interested in working with? What would your ideal job be?


What are your longer-term goals? What is the next role you see yourself in? What will you have to work on or learn in order to reach this objective?

There are several technical positions at Microsoft. Based on the 10 position descriptions below, which would best match your career interests moving forward? (Please highlight those that interest you or you feel you are qualified for.)


Software Design Engineer in Test (SDET) C SDETs create and execute thorough test plans, develop appropriate testing tools, and write test cases and scripts to ensure a high quality customer experience. SDETs write creative code using C/C++, VB, and scripting languages to test our products. SDETs are developers who love to break things.

Software Test Engineer (STE) C STEs work closely with SDEs and PMs to ensure the highest quality of our products. They troubleshoot and test the code with the objective of identifying, investigating, and prioritizing bugs. They develop strategies to identify problems and help find solutions to create bug free software.

Software Design Engineer in Test Lead(SDETL) or C Lead a team of SDETs who will create and execute thorough test plans, develop appropriate testing tools, and write test cases and scripts to ensure a high quality customer experience. SDETs write creative code using C/C++, VB, and scripting languages to test our products. SDETs are developers who love to break things.

Software Test Engineer Lead(STEL) C Lead a team of STEs who will work closely with SDEs and PMs to ensure the highest quality of our products. They troubleshoot and test the code with the objective of identifying, investigating, and prioritizing bugs. They develop strategies to identify problems and help find solutions to create bug free software.


Current Position

Describe your current or most recent company/what is the line of business/who are the customers?

What is your current position?

Describe the product you work on C What does it do and who is the end user for the product?

Describe what part of the product and product development you work on and what percentage you own.

How many people are you working with on your current project? What are their roles?

What is your expertise in the group? (What do you work on that is different form others on your team?)

What do you enjoy about your job?


SDE Questions (SDE/SDEL/SDET/STE Candidates only need to fill out this section)

What is your strongest programming language (C, C++, C#, VB, Java, ASP, HTML, etc…)?

When was the last time you wrote C/C++ code?

What percentage of your time do you spend writing code?

Do you have experience with Multithreaded programming? If so please explain.

What is the largest piece of code you’ve written in terms of lines of code? How many lines was it? What language did you use? What did it do?

What percentage of code have you written was kernel mode and what percentage was user mode?


Kernel Questions Only SDE/SDEL/SDET/STE need to answer)

What percentage of Code have you written was kernel mode and what percentage was user mode?
・ What is the named function in a driver that the IO manager calls when it loads the driver?
・ In terms of synchronous and asynchronous C how would you categorize the Windows NT IO system?
・ What is a bluescreen/bugcheck? Why does the NT kernel bugcheck?
・ How does a user mode application communicate with a kernel mode driver?

User Mode
・ Can you explain the difference between stack and heap memory? How does one do memory cleanup in C ?
・ What is the difference between statically linked and dynamically linked libraries?
・ With respect to memory access, what's the difference between usermode and kernel mode code. Can you give examples of usermode and kernel mode modules?
・ Amongst all the Win32 APIs (or API sets) which are you most familiar with?


Coding Question (SDE/SDEL/STEL/SDET/SDETL Candidates only need to fill out this section) Utilize your strongest language and state what it is.

“ Write a function that would:
a. return the 5th element from the end of a singly linked list
b. list contains only integers
c. solution must find element in one pass
d. Solution cannot use templates
e. Provide a set of test cases against your function

Software Testing Questions (STE, STEL, SDET, SDETL need to fill out this section)

Do you have software testing experience? If so how much and what type?

How much experience writing test plans/test cases do you have?

How much experience do you have writing test automation? What language was it written in?

How would you characterize your philosophy towards testing?

Tell me about the most interesting/challenging bug you have found recently.

Say that your product has 10 features but you only have time to test 5 of them. How do you decide which ones to test?

What kind of information would you include in a test plan?

When do you decide its okay to ship a product with a bug?

Technical skills:
Technical C Please tell how many years experience you have with each technology and when you last used it.
Languages Years of expereince Last Used
C
C++
VC++
Visual Basic
Vb script
MFC
SQL
Other Languages
Operating Systems
Win NT workstation
Win NT server
Win95/98
Win2k
Unix
Other OS
Databases
SQL Server (yrs and version)
Oracle
Other relational databases
Middleware
COM
DCOM
ATL
DNS architecture
MTS (MS Transaction Server)
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旧 Mar 3rd, 2006, 14:10   只看该作者   #15
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谢谢grandland提供的信息。对我来说,技术上的这些要求挺难的!不过打算试一试,就当是撞大运吧!

还想问一下坛子里的朋友,像我这样一年前登陆,但实际呆了几个月的移民是否能办理去美国的工作签证,好办吗?相关的信息哪里有,谢谢!
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感觉新概念,挺适合你的,那点学费对工作来说,不算什么,我没上过新概念,不过问过一些朋友,没一个说没用的,比那个free 的 870 co-op 对 专业来说,好的多

说白了,新概念的培训 不是强化结束,是强化resume 和 interview 的技术,面试时,别人问你的,你都大概能回答好,英文描述也会了,面试技巧也有了,再加运气和时日,能找不到工作吗

不是 Maria 的托,不过最近我也准备去上 J2EE

看不惯有些人,总说Maria忙着赚钱,或骗钱。真正的为华人社区做点力所能及的,有什么错,当然每个entreprenar 都是要赚钱的,business做大的,那才是社会进步的最原始动力, -资本主义社会
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旧 Mar 9th, 2006, 13:35   只看该作者   #17
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感觉新概念,挺适合你的,那点学费对工作来说,不算什么,我没上过新概念,不过问过一些朋友,没一个说没用的,比那个free 的 870 co-op 对 专业来说,好的多

说白了,新概念的培训 不是强化结束,是强化resume 和 interview 的技术,面试时,别人问你的,你都大概能回答好,英文描述也会了,面试技巧也有了,再加运气和时日,能找不到工作吗

不是 Maria 的托,不过最近我也准备去上 J2EE

看不惯有些人,总说Maria忙着赚钱,或骗钱。真正的为华人社区做点力所能及的,有什么错,当然每个entreprenar 都是要赚钱的,business做大的,那才是社会进步的最原始动力, -资本主义社会
谢谢你的建议!
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