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旧 Mar 7th, 2004, 20:42     #1
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炒外汇有很多知识,正在学习

炒外汇有多大风险?
I feel that if I only put order several 100K lots, the risk is low, while the profit is easy to make as we know USD will go up
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旧 Mar 7th, 2004, 20:52   只看该作者   #2
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你不做保证金,即做实盘短期风险应该不大,但收益也不大。永远是收益和风险成正比,除非你有内幕消息(风险是象Martha Stewart一样坐牢)。

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by umbra:
炒外汇有很多知识,正在学习

炒外汇有多大风险?
I feel that if I only put order several 100K lots, the risk is low, while the profit is easy to make as we know USD will go up<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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旧 Mar 7th, 2004, 22:40   只看该作者   #3
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我想炒,但不知道去哪儿开户,点差多少,哪位大侠能贴些相关知识?
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旧 Mar 8th, 2004, 04:47   只看该作者   #4
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I plan to open my account in Refco. I don't know if anyone has the experience there. Any other recommendation?

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你不做保证金,即做实盘短期风险应该不大,但收益也不大。永远是收益和风险成正比,
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草头股上飞, do you have any experience in Fx market? I don't quite understand what "保证金" means. But we have to use margin to place the order. Normally 100K order will only require $1000 as used margin. One pip increase will bring us $10. If the market fluctuate like last week, USAcAD increase from 1.33 to 1.35, it will bring us $2000 profit per lot. That's big profit while only need $1000 as investment. But be careful with the margin call, you will lose everything.
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旧 Mar 8th, 2004, 05:12   只看该作者   #5
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我现在没做,但比较关心。保证金就是你说的Margin。1:100的Margin很容易全部输光。看了你的发言,我建议你小心,不妨把1000块分成10份,一次最多投入100,这样你至少可以有10次大的机会。1000对你太多.... 先学习积累经验,挣钱有的是机会。1000挣2000,那是200%的收益,没有那么容易...

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旧 Mar 8th, 2004, 16:11   只看该作者   #6
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草头股上飞, 谢谢你的见意。

More discussions here.

If I buy one lot of 100k currency, certainly I would not just deposit $1000 in my account. Assuming I deposit $8000 in my account, $1000 would be treated as Used Margin, the remaining $7000 would be useful margin. Let's buy USDCAD at today's rate 1.32. $7000 would be safe to ensure my account would not received margin call until rate drop to 1.25. As my knowelge, the USDCAD should not drop so much unless the market is crazy.

However, I can foresee the rate should increase sooner or later. As a result, if the rate jump from 1.32 to 1.40. I would earn $8000.

Theoretically, it is the market to earn the easy big money as long as the trend is foreseed correctly. Please let me know your idea or correction.

And I claim I have no experience about this market. I would like some experienced guys to share their knowelege with me. I realise, unlike the stock market, the Fx market is very complicated with risk and with wisdom.

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旧 Mar 8th, 2004, 16:28   只看该作者   #7
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However, I can foresee the rate should increase sooner or later. As a result, if the rate jump from 1.32 to 1.40. I would earn $8000.
** 很难说。我觉得外汇和(单个)股票还不太一样,一个大的趋势一旦形成短时间内很难逆转。美元继续下跌的趋势目前还没有变化(你可以看一下美元的weekly图)。USD/CAD能否继续跌到1.25?不是没有这个可能。其实只要跌倒1.27/1.28,你的心理就会发生变化,到时看着钱在缩水能否熬得住很难说。我劝你玩小一点,主要是用这些钱来学习,尽量少付出一些代价。外汇市场作为全球最大的投机市场,有很多重量级的trader参与,你一个新手一上来就想轻而易举赚钱,那是不现实的。天才有,但大多数人不是,都是不断地尝试,不断的失败,从失败中学习,最后才有成功。炒股炒汇的前提是要有启动资本,千万不要在学习的过程中把钱全部输光了。

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旧 Mar 8th, 2004, 16:36   只看该作者   #8
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当然具体玩多少,要根据各人的情况。最好是输了要心痛,赢了要心喜。太少输赢都无所谓,太多一下子就可能永远被wipe out,这都不行。

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旧 Mar 16th, 2004, 19:52   只看该作者   #9
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alfred, talk some your experience here if you have.

草头股上飞, you say:
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一个大的趋势一旦形成短时间内很难逆转。美元继续下跌的趋势目前还没有变化(你可以看一下美元的weekly图)。
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But I feel USD is going up, it is at the turning point. Maybe i am wrong.

I hope more people will joint us to discuss. If we can determine the trend clearly, we make money easily. That is the beauty for the exchange rate trading. Easy but risky.
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旧 Apr 3rd, 2004, 09:56   只看该作者   #10
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已经开户啦。全线买进美金。
保证金,实盘都在做。

保证金帐户买入USDCAD.
Very nevous on Friday. Luckily got good news on the US labor report. However, USDCAD only increase by 70 pips. Next time, I should buy Eurusd, it increased 200 pips yesterday, much more active than cad. It shoot up 100 pips yesterday at good news just in one minute, really thrilling.

Anyway, I see USDCAD will go to 1.34 at least next week on expectation of CAD interest cut.

I see USDCAD 1.45 year-end on expectation of USD interest up.
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旧 Apr 12th, 2004, 16:01   只看该作者   #11
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If your account is self-directed it's a bit better because you control the transactions. But if you are familiar with finance, you'll know foreign exchange game is a zero sum game if no transaction fee is involved. With the fees involved, no matter how small they are, it's a "negative" sum game. I'm sure you've made quite a bit since you open the account, but one can not be always right and because foreign exchange is not backed by fundamentals, the chances of making money and losing money on average is 50-50. You don't have to believe me but I've only met people who have made money through commissions, not one through transactions. I doubt anyone who's studied finance would do it. But good luck.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by umbra:
浴兰沐芳,

I understand your kindness, However, you don't seem to understand much about Fx currency trading. I have self-directed trading account, no one else is able to make decision for my trading except myself. No commission I need to pay for each trade except 5 pips (spread) cost. You are worry too much without proved any experience or proved reason.

It is very important to open an account in reliable, & creditable big broker company to avoid being cheated. Actually, I am more concerned about my current broker not market itself. I would appreciate if you can share with us the experience of either yourself or your friend. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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旧 Jun 28th, 2004, 02:07   只看该作者   #12
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请教美元对加元最近如何变化?
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旧 Jul 1st, 2004, 16:17   只看该作者   #13
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谈论股票到是热火朝天的,炒汇的帖子怎么冷冷清清的啊
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旧 Jul 5th, 2004, 09:19   只看该作者   #14
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炒汇需要有坚强的金融知识作为后盾。至于零和游戏,股票和炒汇一样。
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