【求助】老爸新移民，去年底才来，可否作为caregiver减税？

ming2001 · Mar 14th, 2007, 22:49

请教：父亲是新移民，超过65岁了，2006年底才登陆，在加居住少于183天，可否作为caregiver减税？CCRA上的“at any time of the year"怎样理解？谢谢！

芝麻开门 · Mar 14th, 2007, 23:39

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作者: ming2001

请教：父亲是新移民，超过65岁了，2006年底才登陆，在加居住少于183天，可否作为caregiver减税？CCRA上的“at any time...

可以

老博 · Mar 15th, 2007, 03:21

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作者: ming2001

请教：父亲是新移民，超过65岁了，2006年底才登陆，在加居住少于183天，可否作为caregiver减税？

只要是年迈65周岁父母（1941年前生人）合理合法来到加拿大与子女同吃同住同劳动，子女都有机会申报caregiver减税；
减税额的计算公式是，父母当年抵加天数n (移民 n>=1，探亲 n>183): (n/365) x 减税额

lisainfo · Mar 15th, 2007, 10:54

Where did you find this formular? Please advise. Thanks

减税额的计算公式是，父母当年抵加天数n (移民 n>=1，探亲 n>183): (n/365) x 减税额

水 · Mar 15th, 2007, 11:17

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作者: 老博

只要是年迈65周岁父母（1941年前生人）合理合法来到加拿大与子女同吃同住同劳动，子女都有机会申报caregiver减税；

减税额的计算公式是，父母当年抵加天数n (移民 n>=1，探亲 n>183): (n/365) x 减税额

探亲是不可以的。caregiver有一条规定，visit you的不行。

同时探亲也不满足你说的“同劳动”呀！

mech · Mar 15th, 2007, 11:38

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作者: 水

探亲是不可以的。caregiver有一条规定，visit you的不行。

同时探亲也不满足你说的“同劳动”呀！

哪个说过，探亲超过183天是临时居民，不是visting了。

liyya · Mar 15th, 2007, 11:58

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作者: ming2001

请教：父亲是新移民，超过65岁了，2006年底才登陆，在加居住少于183天，可否作为caregiver减税？CCRA上的“at any time...

你的父亲不是Vist 你而是跟你住在一起，我觉得可以申请Caregiver Amount。他自己也要报2006税，不一定有部分GST Credit 和别的什么吧。这里的社会福利好像都是跟Tax Return有联系的。我不是太了解，你可以再问问明白人。

ming2001 · Mar 15th, 2007, 15:39

从CCRA的网站上，只找到如下信息，感觉概念有些模糊，同住1个月和同住12个月的退税额是等同的吗？觉得老博所给的公式很合理，但不知出处在哪，能否告知一二？

“If, at any time in 2006, you (either alone or with another person) maintained a dwelling where you and a dependant lived (a spouse or common-law partner is not considered your dependant), you may be able to claim a maximum amount of $3,933. The dependant must have been one of the following individuals:
your or your spouse or common-law partner's child or grandchild; or
your or your spouse or common-law partner's brother, sister, niece, nephew, aunt, uncle, parent, or grandparent who was resident in Canada.
You cannot claim this amount for a person who was only visiting you.
In addition, you can claim an amount for more than one dependant as long as each one meets all of the following conditions. The dependant must have:

been 18 or older when he or she lived with you;
had a net income (line 236 of his or her return, or what line 236 would be if he or she filed a return) of less than $17,363; and
been dependent on you due to mental or physical infirmity or, if he or she is your or your spouse or common-law partner's parent or grandparent, born in 1941 or earlier.
If you were required to make support payments for a child, you cannot claim an amount on line 315 for that child. However, if you were separated from your spouse or common-law partner for only part of 2006 due to a breakdown in your relationship, you can still claim an amount for that child on line 315 (plus any allowable amounts on line 305 and line 318) as long as you do not claim any support amounts paid to your spouse or common-law partner on line 220. You may claim whichever is better for you.

水 · Mar 15th, 2007, 16:51

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作者: mech

哪个说过，探亲超过183天是临时居民，不是visting了。

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作者: ming2001

You cannot claim this amount for a person who was only visiting you.

探亲不是visit you，还能是什么？

游夫 · Mar 15th, 2007, 20:42

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作者: ming2001

从CCRA的网站上，只找到如下信息，感觉概念有些模糊，同住1个月和同住12个月的退税额是等同的吗？觉得老博所绮..

同住1个月和同住12个月的退税额当然不同,所以要按公式计算.

爱因思念 · Mar 15th, 2007, 22:06

探亲真的可以退税吗?谁给CONFIRM一下

水 · Mar 15th, 2007, 22:13

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作者: 爱因思念

探亲真的可以退税吗?谁给CONFIRM一下

为什么不打个电话给CRA问呢？他们最能confirm

爱因思念 · Mar 15th, 2007, 22:41

是哈,回来打电话问问

芝麻开门 · Mar 16th, 2007, 00:00

有一个有名的税务黑色幽默：

赶在元旦前一天结婚，坚持到元旦以后再死。

因为结婚一天就可以获得全额spouse credit. 死的那一年可以获得全年个人credit。

和caregiver credit 是一个道理的。

水 · Mar 16th, 2007, 00:11

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作者: 芝麻开门

赶在元旦前一天结婚，坚持到元旦以后再死。

因为结婚一天就可以获得全额spouse credit. 死的那一年可以获得全年个人credit。

和caregiver credit 是一个道理的

可是死的那位什么也享受不到，应该是：赶在元旦前一天结婚，让对方坚持到元旦以后再死。

水 · Mar 16th, 2007, 00:16

有时候我想，父母探亲应该可以申请GST credit。因为留学生可以。因为父母来探亲，在某一年里呆超过183天，如果仍然算是中国的resident，不能在加拿大报税，也就是说，连GST credit也拿不到的，留学生也是同样应该算是中国的resident，不能在加拿大报税。

所以父母探亲一年度超过183天，应该可以报税，但是不能作为caregiver

bumpkin · Mar 16th, 2007, 15:49

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作者: 水

有时候我想，父母探亲应该可以申请GST credit。因为留学生可以。因为父母来探亲，在某一年里呆超过183天，如果仮..

留学生是有SIN卡的，所以可以报税。父母探亲没有SIN卡，所以不能报税。父母探亲回国，可以申请GST rebate。留学生回国则不可以。总之，visiting和studying是两种不同类型的visa，两者身份完全不同，税务待遇自然完全不同。

bumpkin · Mar 16th, 2007, 15:50

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作者: 水

可是死的那位什么也享受不到，应该是：赶在元旦前一天结婚，让对方坚持到元旦以后再死。

牛！理论上完全正确。

mech · Mar 16th, 2007, 16:09

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作者: bumpkin

父母探亲回国，可以申请GST rebate。..

How to apply GST rebate? Thx.

水 · Mar 16th, 2007, 16:30

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作者: bumpkin

留学生是有SIN卡的，所以可以报税。父母探亲没有SIN卡，所以不能报税。父母探亲回国，可以申请GST rebate。留学甮..

现在留学生没有SIN卡。而且报税与否，和有没有SIN卡无关。

Mar 14th, 2007, 22:49	#1
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lisainfo Junior Member 注册日期: Mar 2007 帖子: 1 声望: 0	Where did you find this formular? Please advise. Thanks 减税额的计算公式是，父母当年抵加天数n (移民 n>=1，探亲 n>183): (n/365) x 减税额
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ming2001 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1,190 声望: 143596	谢谢楼上各位的答复，也想知道N/360这个公式的出处。从CCRA的网站上，只找到如下信息，感觉概念有些模糊，同住1个月和同住12个月的退税额是等同的吗？觉得老博所给的公式很合理，但不知出处在哪，能否告知一二？ “If, at any time in 2006, you (either alone or with another person) maintained a dwelling where you and a dependant lived (a spouse or common-law partner is not considered your dependant), you may be able to claim a maximum amount of $3,933. The dependant must have been one of the following individuals: your or your spouse or common-law partner's child or grandchild; or your or your spouse or common-law partner's brother, sister, niece, nephew, aunt, uncle, parent, or grandparent who was resident in Canada. You cannot claim this amount for a person who was only visiting you. In addition, you can claim an amount for more than one dependant as long as each one meets all of the following conditions. The dependant must have: been 18 or older when he or she lived with you; had a net income (line 236 of his or her return, or what line 236 would be if he or she filed a return) of less than $17,363; and been dependent on you due to mental or physical infirmity or, if he or she is your or your spouse or common-law partner's parent or grandparent, born in 1941 or earlier. If you were required to make support payments for a child, you cannot claim an amount on line 315 for that child. However, if you were separated from your spouse or common-law partner for only part of 2006 due to a breakdown in your relationship, you can still claim an amount for that child on line 315 (plus any allowable amounts on line 305 and line 318) as long as you do not claim any support amounts paid to your spouse or common-law partner on line 220. You may claim whichever is better for you.

Mar 16th, 2007, 00:16	只看该作者 #16
水无形注册日期: Nov 2006 帖子: 813 声望: 81152	有时候我想，父母探亲应该可以申请GST credit。因为留学生可以。因为父母来探亲，在某一年里呆超过183天，如果仍然算是中国的resident，不能在加拿大报税，也就是说，连GST credit也拿不到的，留学生也是同样应该算是中国的resident，不能在加拿大报税。所以父母探亲一年度超过183天，应该可以报税，但是不能作为caregiver
水无形注册日期: Nov 2006 帖子: 813 声望: 81152

Mar 15th, 2007, 22:06	只看该作者 #11
爱因思念 Senior Member 注册日期: Oct 2004 帖子: 38,231 积分:151 精华:40 声望: 41001589	探亲真的可以退税吗?谁给CONFIRM一下

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爱因思念 Senior Member 注册日期: Oct 2004 帖子: 38,231 积分:151 精华:40 声望: 41001589	是哈,回来打电话问问

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芝麻开门注册会计师-张兆伟注册日期: May 2006 帖子: 662 积分:12 精华:3 声望: 2476957	有一个有名的税务黑色幽默：赶在元旦前一天结婚，坚持到元旦以后再死。因为结婚一天就可以获得全额spouse credit. 死的那一年可以获得全年个人credit。和caregiver credit 是一个道理的。