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旧 Nov 15th, 2006, 23:28     #1
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默认 澄清事实:中药完全没有副作用!

某些中国人恨不得全身都换了白皮肤,每天24小时都说洋文,整天都在诋毁中华传统,硬说中药有如何如何的副作用。

其实中药是完全没有副作用,说有的人都是白痴。中药是在中医理论基础上发展起来的药,所以对中药的运用不能抽离在它背后的中医理论。西药治的是症状,中药治的是证,简单的说就是一个症候群。比如说,中药里是根本没有止痛药或退烧药的,中药有的只是针对某个证(注意这里指的是证而不是症)。 举个被某些人整天拿来做话题的龙胆泻肝汤来说吧,龙胆泻肝汤治的是肝经湿热证,实证,只要任何人具备肝经湿热证而且是实证的话,龙胆泻肝汤照用无妨,百试百效,又由于该汤是寒凉之方,收效神速,几剂之内就收效,所以病人一般在几天内就会从实证转化成阴平阳秘的正常体质,所以龙胆泻肝汤一般不会被服用超过3剂。在这种情况下,那些老是嚷嚷关木通如何损坏肾脏的人根本就是放屁。 只要有这样的证就要用这样的药,如果证需要的话,就算是砒霜也照用不误,而且药到病除,反过来说,如果是不对证的话,就算是人参也会杀死人(比如说在高血压的情况下)。一句话,只要药不对证,什么药都有可能是毒药,就连米饭也可能是(比如说饿了很长时间的囚犯,肠胃机能极度衰弱的情况下)。 而中药的使用前提是药要对症,只要有这样的证,就算是毒药也照用无妨,而且不用还没有效果。

在举小柴胡汤做例子,很多不明白中药的白痴总以为小柴胡汤就是用来治肝炎的,其实根本不是,小柴胡汤是用作少阳证的,肝炎只是少阳症的多种表现形式里的其中一种。小柴胡汤有可能治肝炎(如果这肝炎属于少阳证的话),但绝对不能说小柴胡证就是治肝炎的。

希望坛子里的那些白吃好好领会一下。呵呵
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旧 Nov 16th, 2006, 13:18     #2
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google 小柴胡汤 肝炎.
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http://scholar.ilib.cn/Abstract.aspx?A=jszy200407005.
Theoretical and Research Basis for Treatment of Viral Hepatitis...
再说一次,很多不明白中药的白痴总以为小柴胡汤就是用来治肝炎的,其实根本不是,小柴胡汤是用作少阳证的,如果你不明白什么是少阳证就自己google一下。肝炎只是少阳症的多种表现形式里的其中一种。小柴胡汤有可能治肝炎(如果这肝炎属于少阳证的话),但绝对不能说小柴胡证就是治肝炎的。那些凡是看见肝炎就拿小柴胡汤来喝的人是自己找死。呵呵

别拿西医那套东西照搬来然后硬往中医头上套。

Conclusion: you are lying.
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旧 Nov 16th, 2006, 17:18     #3
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那少阳证就是啥病呀?没听过啥叫少阳病啊.
傷寒五六日,中風,往來寒熱,胸脅苦滿,嘿嘿不欲飲食,心煩喜嘔。或胸中煩而不嘔,或渴,或腹中痛,或脅下痞硬,或心下悸、小便不利,或不渴,身有微熱,或咳者,小柴胡湯主之。

以上才是小柴胡汤的真正应用原则,现在有些唯恐自己西化得不够彻底的中国人却自做聪明的把小柴胡汤照搬到肝炎的治疗上,然后又叫嚷有副作用云云,白痴得很,呵呵
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Only you were saying "小柴胡证就是治肝炎的" in this forum? Who else? (Now I said it once.)
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中医靠这些人来挺,感觉就象苗儿碰到了那个拔苗助长的人一样,呵呵,帮忙帮得不是地方。
是不是地方不是你来评论的,呵呵
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对不起,呵呵,我是你的观众之一,所以我有权评论你的表现。
那是你个人的看法而已。
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这简直是废话,呵呵,这里谁是领导干部?谁能代表大家意见?谁不是个人看法?你对中医,不是个人看法?呵呵
我只是指出你的评论对我根本没用,管见而已。呵呵
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你希望获得什么作用?呵呵,论坛而已,说说看法,有用没用,不必现在就开始自卫么。
i don't want to repeat myself again and again, hehe
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Even I trust "中医" a little before, I won't trust it anymore....
这有什么奇怪的?现在甚至中国人都不信中国人了。呵呵
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现代科学证明不了的东西,不等于不存在。
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You should know why. And I think I should thank you.
my pleasure.
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"是药三分毒"是谁说的?
是中国人在西药引进中国之后专门针对西药说的,已经是很有礼貌的说法了,现在看来,是西药都是毒。
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有机会好好交流一下。
我的看法:中医不能称之为科学,因为它是高于现代科学的。以人类现在的科技水平,还无法领会和证实其先进性。
中医是哲学,不是科学。
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确实,但那是指没有完善和实践证明的理论。地心说有好多的现象不能解释,但在给出日心说之前,他是一种当时相对完善的一种解释,所以选择了他。但医学从解泡到病理,西医都是完整可证实的,要想中医得到全球认可,可以,那得先证明他比西医更接近事实。这正是中医的软肋!
西医是科学, 中医是哲学,两者风马牛不相及。科学是中医的软肋, 哲学是西医的软肋。
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你又把中医生到了哲学的高度,这样更毁了中医。所有的歪理邪说都成了哲学。大家知道,哲学就是关动嘴不动手,人家具体科学有了进展,他出来说:在我的哲学框架内解决的问题。 早期的科学家可能还是哲学家,但现在,哲学家很难成为科学家了。看来中医也很难给人治病了!
呵呵, 你说毁就毁了吗? 你是什么人? 有什么资格这么说? 哲学和科学本来就是两回事, 哲学家为什么要成为科学家才能给人治病? 你不觉得你自己的说法荒谬吗?
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