DOW may gap down 1000+ points - 第2页

ElephantSong · Oct 31st, 2008, 20:57

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作者: 野渡无人

这TMD是什么狗P市场,最后5分钟还象乒乓球一样跳上跳下的

这市场就是多空通杀

我在跟进 · Oct 31st, 2008, 21:00

这个星期多头似乎恢复了一点信心。

klin · Nov 2nd, 2008, 11:24

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作者: Johny

不过，小心为好，市场总是对的。

Exactly, that's why I never try to win the money I can't afford to lose. This is a heavily manipulated market, the higher it goes, the deeper it will fall. S&P may test 1075-1100 before making a new low.

野渡无人 · Nov 2nd, 2008, 21:33

DOW 期指和恒指又大涨,要转牛市了.

liszt · Nov 3rd, 2008, 08:26

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作者: 野渡无人

DOW 期指和恒指又大涨,要转牛市了.

个人认为，仍在箱体之中，除非上破1050（SPX），否则箱体理论至少短期适用

目前触及箱体的上沿（SPY 98.75-99.1），后市理应回落；如果继续向上突破105-106，再看牛不迟

小蚂蚁 · Nov 3rd, 2008, 10:01

我也认为近期将是箱体整理. 股市将在振荡中向下. 明天美国总统选举前后将将加速向下. 目前波段操作. 短线为主.

野渡无人 · Nov 4th, 2008, 14:08

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作者: liszt

个人认为，仍在箱体之中，除非上破1050（SPX），否则箱体理论至少短期适用

目前触及箱体的上沿（SPY 98.75-99.1），后市理应回落；如果继续向上突破105-106，再看牛不迟

大盘象吃了伟哥一样坚挺两个礼拜不射.庄太牛了.

ElephantSong · Nov 4th, 2008, 18:56

这个时候买PUT便宜啊

klin · Nov 5th, 2008, 08:57

I'm so amazed how naive Americans are. Why are they getting soooo excited for an election show? Will their debt be gone tomorrow?

Obama is a good talker and campaigner, promoting his career with "change", which is most Americans really need now as they are in the biggest sh*t ever. Of course Bush's failure in Iraq helped him a lot.

Obama's change is just a strategy he used to win the election. Americans are too stupid to understand what went wrong for the last 20 years. Although they know something is wrong.

klin · Nov 6th, 2008, 16:23

A typical pump & dump trick. A lower high has been confirmed. S&P retreated from 1000 this time while it tested 1070 last time. Let's see if we can get a lower low in the next couple weeks.

McStudent · Nov 6th, 2008, 17:23

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作者: klin

I'm so amazed how naive Americans are. Why are they getting soooo excited for an election show? Will their debt be gone tomorrow?

Obama is a good ...

I believe you are right, but unfortunately, not many people in this world has such insight ... I believe the Bush administration left too much shit ... let's wait and see ...

klin · Nov 7th, 2008, 00:25

The unexpected interest cut from UK and other European banks is not a good news. It indicates how bad the situation really is. Most people just don't understand how strong this bear market is, because nobody in this planet has ever seen this before.

The massive sell off ahead is even more breath taking. Don't expect a sustainable bull market until a complete wash out has been finished.

哲学故事 · Nov 7th, 2008, 14:08

uuuuuh, 虽然我也认同现在是熊市，而且还有一段路要走，不过，还是没klin认为的那么悲观。klin给我的感觉是，好像世界末日了哈。
现在美国经济的问题就是，以前本没有钱，但借太多的钱来花销，现在是还债的时候了。不过我不觉得美国就会从此不行了，美国在相当长的一段时间内，还会是世界的第一经济体，也会是很有活力的经济体。

ElephantSong · Nov 7th, 2008, 14:35

某天杀你个措手不及,1000+下去,你就知道悲观了.形势不乐观,要有风险意识.

zhuxi · Nov 7th, 2008, 15:19

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作者: ElephantSong

某天杀你个措手不及,1000+下去,你就知道悲观了.形势不乐观,要有风险意识.

Yes,it's coming...

klin · Nov 7th, 2008, 16:10

Look at this:
http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt1920a.pdf

The notional value of OTC derivatives just relating to interest rate contracts (the type that are involved in the mortgage paper mess) totaled almost $400,000,000,000,000!!!!

The problems that have been created by the Fed to the buildup of this massive debt bubble, are so large that eventually (and likely very soon) there will be an implosion. Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, GM, keep counting.

With this amount of leverage, there is nothing that Central Banks will be able to do once the whole thing begins to implode. This is fact. Those that choose to believe business reporters, analysts and commentators that the market is close to bottom are doomed to suffer yet another blow.

You'd better take it seriously if you want to pretect you and your family financially.

野渡无人 · Nov 7th, 2008, 22:39

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作者: klin

Look at this:
http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt1920a.pdf

The notional value of OTC derivatives just relating to interest rate contracts (th...

这些宏观经济因素现在似乎完全不起作用啊.这两个星期,坏消息都是成筐成箩的出.好消息基本没有.但是大盘就是给你蛮横无理的往上涨.尤其是今天,今天的消息面足够坏了,但是大涨250多点.

如果后几个星期接着出坏消息,大盘还继续往上涨吗?我怀疑下月的失业数据会更恐怖,至少从这两个星期以来,几乎每个公司都在砍人.然后大盘会借消息到12000点?

野渡无人 · Nov 7th, 2008, 22:44

GM,FORD烧钱的速度惊人,到2009年他们的CASH就烧完了.然后就只剩下倒闭一条道路.(政府恐怕也没钱在救下去了)如果GM倒闭了,和汽车相关的产业起码要有上百万人失业.

在这么巨大的利空面前,DOW能涨多少,15000点到2009年中?

klin · Nov 10th, 2008, 12:48

People choose to believe what they want to believe. Remember general public is always wrong in investment world. Calling bottom in such a strong bear market is so dangerous that I would leave it to people brave enough.

This is an once-in-a-century crisis. Don't look at your 6-month, 5-year, 10-year chart, you've got to look at the DOW 100-year charts. The super bull market started in 80's is coming to an end. DOW will not make a new high before testing 5000- range.

Like you would buy on the dips during a bull market, the SAFEST thing you can do now is to sell into any oversold bounce.

Preserve your capitcal, jump in when most people run out of cash for the real bottom.

野渡无人 · Nov 11th, 2008, 15:01

今天牛把吃奶的劲都使出来了,不做上去,就等着破8000了

Oct 31st, 2008, 21:00	只看该作者 #22
我在跟进 Senior Member 注册日期: Jan 2008 帖子: 862 声望: 2131492	这个星期多头似乎恢复了一点信心。
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Nov 2nd, 2008, 21:33	只看该作者 #24
野渡无人华疯小混混的领导注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 18,324 积分:58 精华:15 声望: 1008427566	DOW 期指和恒指又大涨,要转牛市了.
	一天想到归去但已晚

Nov 5th, 2008, 08:57	只看该作者 #29
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215	I'm so amazed how naive Americans are. Why are they getting soooo excited for an election show? Will their debt be gone tomorrow? Obama is a good talker and campaigner, promoting his career with "change", which is most Americans really need now as they are in the biggest sh*t ever. Of course Bush's failure in Iraq helped him a lot. Obama's change is just a strategy he used to win the election. Americans are too stupid to understand what went wrong for the last 20 years. Although they know something is wrong.
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215

Nov 6th, 2008, 16:23	只看该作者 #30
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215	A typical pump & dump trick. A lower high has been confirmed. S&P retreated from 1000 this time while it tested 1070 last time. Let's see if we can get a lower low in the next couple weeks.
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215

Nov 7th, 2008, 00:25	只看该作者 #32
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215	The unexpected interest cut from UK and other European banks is not a good news. It indicates how bad the situation really is. Most people just don't understand how strong this bear market is, because nobody in this planet has ever seen this before. The massive sell off ahead is even more breath taking. Don't expect a sustainable bull market until a complete wash out has been finished.
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215

Nov 3rd, 2008, 10:01	只看该作者 #26
小蚂蚁 Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 1,332 积分:9 精华:6 声望: 1401943	我也认为近期将是箱体整理. 股市将在振荡中向下. 明天美国总统选举前后将将加速向下. 目前波段操作. 短线为主.

Nov 4th, 2008, 18:56	只看该作者 #28
ElephantSong Senior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 住址: Toronto 帖子: 3,625 声望: 2225336	这个时候买PUT便宜啊

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哲学故事 Senior Member 注册日期: Dec 2005 帖子: 176 积分:1 精华:1 声望: 10	uuuuuh, 虽然我也认同现在是熊市，而且还有一段路要走，不过，还是没klin认为的那么悲观。klin给我的感觉是，好像世界末日了哈。现在美国经济的问题就是，以前本没有钱，但借太多的钱来花销，现在是还债的时候了。不过我不觉得美国就会从此不行了，美国在相当长的一段时间内，还会是世界的第一经济体，也会是很有活力的经济体。

Nov 7th, 2008, 14:35	只看该作者 #34
ElephantSong Senior Member 注册日期: Apr 2005 住址: Toronto 帖子: 3,625 声望: 2225336	某天杀你个措手不及,1000+下去,你就知道悲观了.形势不乐观,要有风险意识.

Nov 7th, 2008, 16:10	只看该作者 #36
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215	Look at this: http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt1920a.pdf The notional value of OTC derivatives just relating to interest rate contracts (the type that are involved in the mortgage paper mess) totaled almost $400,000,000,000,000!!!! The problems that have been created by the Fed to the buildup of this massive debt bubble, are so large that eventually (and likely very soon) there will be an implosion. Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, GM, keep counting. With this amount of leverage, there is nothing that Central Banks will be able to do once the whole thing begins to implode. This is fact. Those that choose to believe business reporters, analysts and commentators that the market is close to bottom are doomed to suffer yet another blow. You'd better take it seriously if you want to pretect you and your family financially.
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215

Nov 7th, 2008, 22:44	只看该作者 #38
野渡无人华疯小混混的领导注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 18,324 积分:58 精华:15 声望: 1008427566	GM,FORD烧钱的速度惊人,到2009年他们的CASH就烧完了.然后就只剩下倒闭一条道路.(政府恐怕也没钱在救下去了)如果GM倒闭了,和汽车相关的产业起码要有上百万人失业. 在这么巨大的利空面前,DOW能涨多少,15000点到2009年中?

Nov 10th, 2008, 12:48	只看该作者 #39
klin Senior Member 注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 583 声望: 488215	People choose to believe what they want to believe. Remember general public is always wrong in investment world. Calling bottom in such a strong bear market is so dangerous that I would leave it to people brave enough. This is an once-in-a-century crisis. Don't look at your 6-month, 5-year, 10-year chart, you've got to look at the DOW 100-year charts. The super bull market started in 80's is coming to an end. DOW will not make a new high before testing 5000- range. Like you would buy on the dips during a bull market, the SAFEST thing you can do now is to sell into any oversold bounce. Preserve your capitcal, jump in when most people run out of cash for the real bottom.
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野渡无人华疯小混混的领导注册日期: Jul 2004 帖子: 18,324 积分:58 精华:15 声望: 1008427566	今天牛把吃奶的劲都使出来了,不做上去,就等着破8000了